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  • Anton Parker posted an update 1 month ago

    Hi Richard.
    Here’s a link to the paper aeroplane game I mentioned.
    Best wishes


  • Hi, I wondered if anybody has performed a ‘monitors and measures’ workshop? I’ve been asked to co-run one and am looking for ideas for a practical group session. Total allowed workshop time is 60mins so would want the practical element to last maybe 30ish mins
    thanks in Advance…

    • Hi Richard, hope you are well. I have ran a fair few of these kinds of sessions and I guess I’d ask at what level the delegates are at? This will then perhaps lead to the possibilities of something interactive.

      • Hi Stuart,
        Thanks for your rely, my audience will all be healthcare scientists so will be very data driven. The initial aim is to provide an introduction and spark discussion
        Thanks Very Much for your help

      • Hi Richard,

        I developed and delivered two Measurement for Improvement modules, one full-day for clinicians, executives, commissioners and managers, and a half day module to introduce data experts, analysts and researchers to QI and measurement. I’d be very happy to help.



      • Hi again Richard… so depending on their experiences of measurement for improvement (I am making an assumption that this will be limited), I think it would be really helpful for them to understand the differences in types of measurement – I often spend some time on Leif Solberg et al’s ‘3 Faces of Measurement’. Once they are comfortable with…Read more

      • Hi Stuart and Thomas,
        Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, would greatly appreciate any and all help you could give please. and will certainly look at the 3 faces of measurement

      • Feel free to get in touch directly Richard if a chat would help, my email is – we can work out a time or whatever from there…

    • It depends on the audience and what you are attempting to achieve in terms of learning outcomes. One I have used a lot for beginners is the Post It Note game … it just requires post-it notes, a coin, and a clock (e.g. stopwatch on a mobile phone) and can be used to generate raw data that can be plotted as before and after improvement run…Read more

      • Hi Simon,
        Thanks for your reply, this idea sounds like it would appeal to my audience as they will all be healthcare scientists so very data driven. The aim is really to provide an introduction rather than anything else. My direct email is
        thanks very much for your help

    • Hi Richard, OK I’ll email you the instructions – it is designed as an introduction. With regards, Simon

    • Hi Richard
      The most engaging measurement activity I have taken part in during a QI training session involved making paper aeroplanes and measuring flight distance. Doesn’t generate a huge amount of data but teaches on sources of and reducing variation and generates a very simple SPC chart with a shift.
      If you’re interested then I might be able to…Read more

      • Hi Anton,
        I’ve heard about this one before but not sure on the details so would be great if you could forward something please
        Very much appreciate your help

  • Hi, I’ve just published something using hospital level SPC charts with weekly data points over a 6 month period. Some hospitals only submitted data for a few of those weeks, and are now frustrated that they don’t have a mean for the period. Obviously they shouldn’t get the full SPC experience, but I was wondering if you would consider giving a…Read more

    • Mmmmm. I’ve had varying experience with SPC in a number of hospitals. By reverting to using a mean based on a small number of results kinda defeats the object! I think the problem is getting Trust boards etc to accept things like special cause variation and not kicking off a whole raft of work based on an outlying result. Its almost a cultural thing.

    • Hi Sam, you can give a mean for a one point sample if you want … the caveat is that the smaller the sample size the more fuzzy that estimate is of the true value of the mean; and the degree of fuzziness also depends on the variation over time in the system being measured, how the data is sampled, and any measurement errors incurred. One problem…Read more

    • Hello,

      For me no, I wouldn’t and I think there’s heaps of learning in there for the centres. I see it as an opportunity to revisit the SPC charts and their purpose for them. If you give the mean then I don’t think that learning will happen. An opportunity for frustration to turn to curiosity? Signpost to plot the dots https…Read more

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